FIDE ratable sections with WinTD

[Akzidenz]

@GKarRacer

Correct. And to our utter annoyance, they get charged that way too. If you have two sections FIDE rated, then both sections are subject to the $60 minimum fee meaning you’re minimum cost is $120 for what we would call “one tournament”.

Is the $60 minimum imposed by FIDE or by USCF? I was under the impression the $60 fee was a USCF administrative fee. An administrative fee would be understandable, given that the USCF has to provide administrative support to process FIDE’s events. (Whether the fee is too high or should be assessed differently is another question.)

[relyea]

@Akzidenz

Is the $60 minimum imposed by FIDE or by USCF? I was under the impression the $60 fee was a USCF administrative fee. An administrative fee would be understandable, given that the USCF has to provide administrative support to process FIDE’s events. (Whether the fee is too high or should be assessed differently is another question.)

It’s a little of both. FIDE charges national federations a fee, and US Chess passes that on along with an admin fee. In the case of a very small section, more of that fee stays in Crossville. I’d imagine that for an event the size of, say, the U.S. Masters, we keep very little of it.

Alex Relyea

[wintdoan]

@gmaness0422

I don’t know if this really pertains to the question directly … but, when I have a (USCF) tournament with a FIDE-rated section … I submit the tournament to the USCF as two tournaments … e.g. Peach State Open – for all non-FIDE sections … and Peach State Open (FIDE) – for, obviously, the FIDE-rated section.

Then again … I am using SwissSys instead of WinTD nowadays.

I don’t think there’s any reason to split them for submission to the USCF. The National Open had two FIDE rated sections, but the entire tournament is shown unified on the MSA.

[wilecoyote]

It appears that little to no notice has been taken of Executive Board motion EB16-052, which was passed by a 7-0 vote on April 27, 2016:

@Executive Board motion EB16-052

Effective August 1, 2016:

US Chess will charge a $60 administrative fee to US Chess affiliates for all FIDE rated events, except for those submitted by exempt organizations.

US Chess will offer a $40 discount off the administrative fee for all FIDE events submitted with the FIDE rating reports prepared using a pairing program that is compatible with FIDE requirements and the FIDE General Data Exchange Format (also known as the Krause format).

US Chess will charge affiliates the rating fees collected by FIDE and as defined by the FIDE Financial Regulations. The Executive Director or the ED’s designee will adjust the fees on a monthly basis based on changes to FIDE policy, the current currency exchange rate and bank fees.

After January 1, 2017, US Chess will require affiliates to submit FIDE rating reports using a pairing program that is compatible with FIDE requirements and the FIDE General Data Exchange Format (also known as the Krause format). Any events not submitted in accordance with these standards will not be submitted to FIDE for rating and will be returned to the affiliate for re-submission in the proper format.​​​​

The most direct way of satisfying the requirement for the $40 discount and also still producing a usable US Chess rating report is to use SwissSys and the combined US Chess/FIDE rating database I publish every month. (I apologize for the shameless self-promotion.) Send the US Chess office the SwissSys file for the last round of the FIDE rated section and the schedule of rounds. (The FIDE rating report requires the date each round was played.)