Good Faith Deposit

[timjust]

The Good Faith Deposit has gone from $25 to $50:https://new.uschess.org/administration/increase-of-the-good-faith-deposit-effective-march-1-2017/

[relyea]

@Tim Just

The Good Faith Deposit has gone from $25 to $50:https://new.uschess.org/administration/increase-of-the-good-faith-deposit-effective-march-1-2017/

When I saw this topic I thought Mr. Just was referring to the deposit that players who have a history of silent withdrawals must make.

Alex Relyea

[scottrparker]

@Tim Just

The Good Faith Deposit has gone from $25 to $50:https://new.uschess.org/administration/increase-of-the-good-faith-deposit-effective-march-1-2017/

That’s a move in the right direction, but rather a tepid one. The problem with the $25 figure was that the prospect of losing it wasn’t enough to dissuade someone from filing a frivolous complaint. Moving to a $50 fee doesn’t raise it enough to make a significant difference. It needs to be raised to a high enough figure to make people think twice about wasting people’s time with frivolous complaints. While that figure is different for different people, I think it needs to be at least $250 to have any real teeth. Since the committee hearing the appeal has the ability to waive the Good Faith Deposit fee in hardship cases that figure doesn’t seem at all unreasonable.

[10mostwanted]

@scottrparker

@Tim Just

The Good Faith Deposit has gone from $25 to $50:https://new.uschess.org/administration/increase-of-the-good-faith-deposit-effective-march-1-2017/

That’s a move in the right direction, but rather a tepid one. The problem with the $25 figure was that the prospect of losing it wasn’t enough to dissuade someone from filing a frivolous complaint. Moving to a $50 fee doesn’t raise it enough to make a significant difference. It needs to be raised to a high enough figure to make people think twice about wasting people’s time with frivolous complaints. While that figure is different for different people, I think it needs to be at least $250 to have any real teeth. Since the committee hearing the appeal has the ability to waive the Good Faith Deposit fee in hardship cases that figure doesn’t seem at all unreasonable.

really? i mean, how many of these complaints are filed yearly? i’ve never heard of anyone even filing one.

…scot…

[Mulfish]

Well, they ARE confidential.

[Allen]

@10mostwanted

@scottrparker

@Tim Just

The Good Faith Deposit has gone from $25 to $50:https://new.uschess.org/administration/increase-of-the-good-faith-deposit-effective-march-1-2017/

That’s a move in the right direction, but rather a tepid one. The problem with the $25 figure was that the prospect of losing it wasn’t enough to dissuade someone from filing a frivolous complaint. Moving to a $50 fee doesn’t raise it enough to make a significant difference. It needs to be raised to a high enough figure to make people think twice about wasting people’s time with frivolous complaints. While that figure is different for different people, I think it needs to be at least $250 to have any real teeth. Since the committee hearing the appeal has the ability to waive the Good Faith Deposit fee in hardship cases that figure doesn’t seem at all unreasonable.

really? i mean, how many of these complaints are filed yearly? i’ve never heard of anyone even filing one.

…scot…

More than you think…

I think the EB has handled appeals on at least 1-3 per year each year I have served.

And most are not appealed to the EB. We only see the ones that are.

[proustiskeen]

I tried to file one and was actively dissuaded by the office. True story. Even after a IA / NTD confirmed I was in the right.

[DENTONCHESS]

I have run a GREAT many tournaments. And with this, quite a few in which over a hundred played. And as such, you cannot please everyone all the time.

Whether someone files a complaint or not, they still quite often do their damage in the smears of their versions of the tale to all they know. At least with
a complaint it gets out into the open.

While the few complaints against me have been trivial, minor, and immediately dismissed, I know of several TDs in which serious complaints (also ridiculous)
were filed. The immediate dismissal of these complaints killed the negative campaign on the part of the accuser.

I think it is better quite often to deal with it, and get it over with as a TD, rather than have to hear the same nonsense for years.

Nothing is as damaging as bad pr, deserved or not.

Rob Jones