# I'm not sure how we should take this

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**Category:** All Things Chess\
**Created:** [February 1, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999 "2010-02-01T21:27:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![David\_Ames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@David\_Ames](https://forum.uschess.org/u/David_Ames)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/1 "2010-02-01T21:27:07Z")

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I occasionally use [abebooks.com](http://abebooks.com) to locate a desired book. Therefore I get e-mails from them, publicizing interesting offers. Their latest calls attention to their Weird Book Room. (“I” before “e” except in “weird.”)

Their introductory statement calls attention to the “Big Book of Lesbian Horse Stories,” which certainly is weird. (It can be verified also through [bookfinder.com](http://bookfinder.com).) But then they also call attention to a book “Jewish Chess Masters on Stamps.”

I am not sure how we should take this.

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**Author:** ![artichoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@artichoke](https://forum.uschess.org/u/artichoke)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/2 "2010-02-02T04:22:54Z")

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Take it with a rabbi rather than a bishop.

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**Author:** ![LaughingVulcan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/laughingvulcan/32/322_2.png) [@LaughingVulcan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/LaughingVulcan)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/3 "2010-02-02T06:01:18Z")

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At first I couldn’t figure out the title at all… I thought it was about equivalent to “Scandinavian Numismatists on the Ruy Lopez.” I had to Amazon it to realize that they were talking about putting players faces/images on the stamps. (It isn’t Jewish Chess Masters treating the subject of philately. 😉 )

Part of Amazon’s description:

> [@http://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Chess-Masters-Stamps-Berkovich/dp/0786406836](#):
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> Since the first chess stamp was issued in 1947, over 200 Jewish chess stamps, souvenir sheets, covers and postmarks have been issued by about 35 nations. Many of these Jewish chess stamps honored world champions from Wilhelm Steinitz to Garry Kasparov. General chess philately encompassed about 600 items as of 1994. Judaica philately, irrespective of chess, has also burgeoned; there were perhaps 10,000 stamps devoted to Jewish topics as of 1998.

As someone who’s dabbled a little in Judaica as related to ancient numismatics, I suppose it makes a degree of sense. The question is, is it aimed at philatelists, chess enthusiasts, chess enthusiasts who are also philatelists, those interested in Judaica, other?

It’s interesting that while there are numismatists, philatelists, lepidopterists, machinists, communists, capitalists… there is no term for one who engages in chess-related studies. Caissist? Shahmatist?

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**Author:** ![jwiewel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/jwiewel/32/104_2.png) [@jwiewel](https://forum.uschess.org/u/jwiewel)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/4 "2010-02-02T06:10:43Z")

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> [@LaughingVulcan](#):
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> …  
> It’s interesting that while there are numismatists, philatelists, lepidopterists, machinists, communists, capitalists… there is no term for one who engages in chess-related studies. Caissist? Shahmatist?

Psychologist or psychiatrist? Or were you focusing on chess-players engaging in the studies?  
😆

I’ve heard of kibitzers, but would one also involved in Judaica be instead called a kibbutzer?  
😒

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**Author:** ![KeithAmmann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/keithammann/32/2606_2.png) [@KeithAmmann](https://forum.uschess.org/u/KeithAmmann)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/5 "2010-02-02T15:10:50Z")

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> [@LaughingVulcan](#):
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> It’s interesting that while there are numismatists, philatelists, lepidopterists, machinists, communists, capitalists… there is no term for one who engages in chess-related studies. Caissist? Shahmatist?

Scacologist. From Greek σκάκι “chess” + -λογία.

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**Author:** ![David\_Ames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@David\_Ames](https://forum.uschess.org/u/David_Ames)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/6 "2010-02-02T18:03:11Z")

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> [@anjiaoshi](#):
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> > [@LaughingVulcan](#):
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> > It’s interesting that while there are numismatists, philatelists, lepidopterists, machinists, communists, capitalists… there is no term for one who engages in chess-related studies. Caissist? Shahmatist?
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> Scacologist. From Greek σκάκι “chess” + -λογία.

The pun, I suppose, just happened to be there.

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**Author:** ![jjamesge1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jjamesge1](https://forum.uschess.org/u/jjamesge1)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/7 "2010-02-07T16:45:57Z")

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> [@David Ames](#):
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> I occasionally use [abebooks.com](http://abebooks.com) to locate a desired book. Therefore I get e-mails from them, publicizing interesting offers. Their latest calls attention to their Weird Book Room. (“I” before “e” except in “weird.”)
> 
> Their introductory statement calls attention to the “Big Book of #### Horse Stories,” which certainly is weird. (It can be verified also through [bookfinder.com](http://bookfinder.com).) But then they also call attention to a book “Jewish Chess Masters on Stamps.”
> 
> I am not sure how we should take this.

beige, cleidoic, codeine, conscience, deify, deity, deign,  
dreidel, eider, eight, either, feign, feint, feisty,  
foreign, forfeit, freight, gleization, gneiss, greige,  
greisen, heifer, heigh-ho, height, heinous, heir, heist,  
leitmotiv, neigh, neighbor, neither, peignoir, prescient,  
rein, science, seiche, seidel, seine, seismic, seize, sheik,  
society, sovereign, surfeit, teiid, veil, vein, weight,  
weir, weird

caffeine, casein, codeine, deil (Scots, devil), disseize,  
either, geisha, inveigle, keister (slang, buttocks),  
keister, leisure, monteith, neither, obeisance,  
phenolphthalein, phthalein, protein, seize, seizin, sheik,  
sheila (Australian slang for “girl”, not capitalized),  
specie, species, teiid

Not a comprehensive list, but I think a good chunk of the execptions.

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**Author:** ![David\_Ames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@David\_Ames](https://forum.uschess.org/u/David_Ames)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/8 "2010-02-07T17:12:15Z")

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> [@jjamesge1](#):
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> > [@David Ames](#):
> >
> > I occasionally use [abebooks.com](http://abebooks.com) to locate a desired book. Therefore I get e-mails from them, publicizing interesting offers. Their latest calls attention to their Weird Book Room. (“I” before “e” except in “weird.”)
> > 
> > Their introductory statement calls attention to the “Big Book of #### Horse Stories,” which certainly is weird. (It can be verified also through [bookfinder.com](http://bookfinder.com).) But then they also call attention to a book “Jewish Chess Masters on Stamps.”
> > 
> > I am not sure how we should take this.
> 
> beige, cleidoic, codeine, conscience, deify, deity, deign,  
> dreidel, eider, eight, either, feign, feint, feisty,  
> foreign, forfeit, freight, gleization, gneiss, greige,  
> greisen, heifer, heigh-ho, height, heinous, heir, heist,  
> leitmotiv, neigh, neighbor, neither, peignoir, prescient,  
> rein, science, seiche, seidel, seine, seismic, seize, sheik,  
> society, sovereign, surfeit, teiid, veil, vein, weight,  
> weir, weird
> 
> caffeine, casein, codeine, deil (Scots, devil), disseize,  
> either, geisha, inveigle, keister (slang, buttocks),  
> keister, leisure, monteith, neither, obeisance,  
> phenolphthalein, phthalein, protein, seize, seizin, sheik,  
> sheila (Australian slang for “girl”, not capitalized),  
> specie, species, teiid
> 
> Not a comprehensive list, but I think a good chunk of the execptions.

❗❗❗

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**Author:** ![jjamesge1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jjamesge1](https://forum.uschess.org/u/jjamesge1)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/9 "2010-02-07T20:14:42Z")

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> [@David Ames](#):
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> > [@jjamesge1](#):
> >
> > > [@David Ames](#):
> > >
> > > I occasionally use [abebooks.com](http://abebooks.com) to locate a desired book. Therefore I get e-mails from them, publicizing interesting offers. Their latest calls attention to their Weird Book Room. (“I” before “e” except in “weird.”)
> > > 
> > > Their introductory statement calls attention to the “Big Book of #### Horse Stories,” which certainly is weird. (It can be verified also through [bookfinder.com](http://bookfinder.com).) But then they also call attention to a book “Jewish Chess Masters on Stamps.”
> > > 
> > > I am not sure how we should take this.
> > 
> > beige, cleidoic, codeine, conscience, deify, deity, deign,  
> > dreidel, eider, eight, either, feign, feint, feisty,  
> > foreign, forfeit, freight, gleization, gneiss, greige,  
> > greisen, heifer, heigh-ho, height, heinous, heir, heist,  
> > leitmotiv, neigh, neighbor, neither, peignoir, prescient,  
> > rein, science, seiche, seidel, seine, seismic, seize, sheik,  
> > society, sovereign, surfeit, teiid, veil, vein, weight,  
> > weir, weird
> > 
> > caffeine, casein, codeine, deil (Scots, devil), disseize,  
> > either, geisha, inveigle, keister (slang, buttocks),  
> > keister, leisure, monteith, neither, obeisance,  
> > phenolphthalein, phthalein, protein, seize, seizin, sheik,  
> > sheila (Australian slang for “girl”, not capitalized),  
> > specie, species, teiid
> > 
> > Not a comprehensive list, but I think a good chunk of the execptions.
> 
> ❗❗❗

😆

After a closer look, I noticed a few words that have the “cie” in them. ROFL. Guess the author was sloppy.

[alt-usage-english.org/I\_before\_E.html](http://alt-usage-english.org/I_before_E.html)

Thats my source.

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**Author:** ![LaughingVulcan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/laughingvulcan/32/322_2.png) [@LaughingVulcan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/LaughingVulcan)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/10 "2010-02-08T13:10:34Z")

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> [@anjiaoshi](#):
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> > [@LaughingVulcan](#):
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> > It’s interesting that while there are numismatists, philatelists, lepidopterists, machinists, communists, capitalists… there is no term for one who engages in chess-related studies. Caissist? Shahmatist?
> 
> Scacologist. From Greek σκάκι “chess” + -λογία.

_Raise Eyebrow_ Fascinating… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/uschess/original/1X/65d1a996f980390e061d8e023f03e6edaa0e9988.gif) It does make sense. I suppose a Caissaist could be one that treats Chess like or as a religion. 😉

> [@jjamesge1](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > .... caffeine, casein, codeine, deil (Scots, devil), disseize, either, geisha, inveigle, [b]keister (slang, buttocks), keister,[/b] leisure, .... Not a comprehensive list, but I think a good chunk of the execptions.
> 
> After a closer look, I noticed a few words that have the “cie” in them. ROFL. Guess the author was sloppy.
> 
> [alt-usage-english.org/I\_before\_E.html](http://alt-usage-english.org/I_before_E.html)
> 
> Thats my source.

Keister is mentioned twice, as well. Now mine happens to be large enough for two, but really… :mrgreen:  
Someday I might reach the time when I will be more flexibly inflexible, and I can say I live my life with no buts. 😈

Thank you… I’ll be playing this room until I let my membership expire… 😉

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**Author:** ![Ron\_Suarez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@Ron\_Suarez](https://forum.uschess.org/u/Ron_Suarez)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/11 "2010-02-08T17:22:28Z")

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> [@LaughingVulcan](#):
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> Thank you… I’ll be playing this room until I let my membership expire… 😉

…and I, a Life Member, do not wish to see my membership expire too soon at all…

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**Author:** ![ppwchess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b19c9b/32.png) [@ppwchess](https://forum.uschess.org/u/ppwchess)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/12 "2010-02-10T16:03:25Z")

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> [@LaughingVulcan](#):
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> Keister is mentioned twice, as well. Now mine happens to be large enough for two, but really… :mrgreen:  
> Someday I might reach the time when I will be more flexibly inflexible, and I can say I live my life with no buts. 😈
> 
> Thank you… I’ll be playing this room until I let my membership expire… 😉

Keister (**)(**)

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**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/system/32/2_2.png) [@system](https://forum.uschess.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:35am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/im-not-sure-how-we-should-take-this/11999/13 "2024-04-22T08:35:28Z")

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