Inquiries about recent FIDE decisions

All Things Chess
1

A simple list of the decisions from the Second Quarter meeting is at
fide.com/component/content/a … de-pb.html

Does anybody know more about the following?

2PB-2013/13. To approve the proposal of Mr. Makropoulos to request explanations from the Bahrain and US Chess Federations regarding their refusal to approve chess academies.

2PB-2013/21. To publish new text on Registration and Licencing on the FIDE website for comments.

2PB-2013/28. To publish the proposal of Mrs. B. Marinello on the FIDE website for comments from Federations.

2

The FIDE Handbook, section 07 on regulations for trainers has a subsection 3 on Chess Academies. There are some details on what academies can do, eligibility, fees, and powers.

Has the EB published or posted a policy on a FIDE “Chess Academy?” Was it on the agenda of any EB meeting? How would the FIDE guidelines on “trainers” and “instructors” affect the USCF or its governance?

3

Just found EB13-033 and EB13-034. Any details available on the decisions regarding these matters? Why was Sevan Muradian denied the right to set up an academy? Does the USCF approve the academy set up by Khodarkovsky? The USCF logo is on americanchessuniversity.com.

4

The academy established by Michael Khodarkovsky was established some time ago, before FIDE changed the rights of such academies to encroach on the rights and obligations historically reserved for national federations. Only national federations could name teams to international events - now FIDE academies can do so. Sinc ethe new rules change the very nature of the concept of national federations being sovereign, the EB choose to make a policy to deny all requests for new FIDE academies and, as permitted by the FIDE rules announcing the change, retain within the national federation any future FIDE academy. There seems to be no provision to repeal the permission for the one present US based academy.

One of the tasks for the new ED will be to get the USCF FIDE academy running and then those who wish to conduct such training will be able to do so under the auspices of our national federation, leaving the national federation with the historical sovereign rights it has always enjoyed under FIDE.

5

This has been on the agenda at several EB meetings in the last year. The former ED had several action items to complete with regards to these matters. Not all appear to have been completed when he left. We’ll have to find out where some things have been left and make sure all of the loose ends are tied up.

6

I do not believe that the text of the proposal mentioned in item 28 was communicated as such to the EB. If it had been, we would have been able to discuss it at our recently completed meeting in St Louis.

7

Thanks. I am not a big fan of FIDE’s proposals and fee arrangements. Not sure what is in the trainer/instructor syllabus or why the need for special certification except to create a class of individuals to dun money.

8

Thanks to Chris Bird for finding the following link.

fide.com/component/content/a … ayers.html

It looks like:

  1. The national federation will register players (apparently no fee)
  2. A player can play in defiance of the rulings of the national federation (the player pays 60 euros per year), but cannot play in FIDE-run or continental events
  3. Every player in a FIDE-rated section must have a FIDE ID before it can be rated and the national federation should make sure all players have a valid ID before submitting the event so that it can be rated
  4. If a national federation delists and relists a player then it pays FIDE 25 euros

I am not sure, but I think the USCF (Walter) is doing (1), (2) might be useful in India, (3) mirrors the USCF requirements to get a section rated, (4) looks to be a move to reduce the delisting/relisting of people (just keep the person listed).

There are still potential issues with IDs being created under the wrong country. For instance, if my teenage son and I play in a FIDE-rated tournament in England then I already have an ID with the US but my son doesn’t. Apparently the best option would be to have the USCF create an ID for him in advance of the trip, since otherwise England might create one and have him associated to England instead of the US (and, per 3.2, England shouldn’t allow him to play anyway without a FIDE ID).

Thus there is still the burden on the organizer to validate (during registration) the IDs of any foreign player.

9

I really have to wonder what problem FIDE is trying to solve here. The FIDE site mentions problems with duplicated ID, etc.
(I can appreciate that, we have thousands of them in USCF records, and I’m sure there are many we don’t have flagged as duplicates.)

One difference between USCF and FIDE is that USCF never recycles an ID while FIDE has been known to recycle FIDE IDs that used to belong to deceased players.

Recently I compared the two download files available from the FIDE site, the monthly FIDE Rating List and the ‘all players’ list, which is supposed to include everyone who has a FIDE ID, including those who do not have enough games for a FIDE rating.

I found 25 players who were on both files but had different country codes, as well as 7 players where the FIDE title on one file did not match with the FIDE title on the other file. There may be other differences as well.

I did report these to Walter Brown, who said he would pass them on to the FIDE office.

10

I found something about Beatriz’ proposal.

Women (not men) are to avoid “clothes that expose areas of the body usually covered in the location where the event is taking place”. Both genders are allowed “national costumes clothing”. I wonder what happens when the two conflict.

I also wonder how many players at the World Amateur (an event explicitly listed for the code) when it was in IL in 2010 would have been violating this code. World events for juniors and youth players are also covered.

fide.com/component/content/a … olicy.html
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1.g. Exception can be made on the basis of health and religion.
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3. Dress Code for players during games in progress.
3.a. The following is acceptable for men players, captains, head of delegation.
Suits, ties, dressy pants, trousers, jeans, long-sleeve or shirt-sleeve dress shirt, dress shirt, alternatively T-shirts or polo, dress shoes, loafers or dressy slip-ons, socks, shoes or sneakers, sport coat, blazer, Bermuda shorts, turtleneck, jacket, vest or sweater. Team uniforms and national costumes clothing.
3.b. The following is NOT acceptable for men players, captains, head of delegation.
Beach-wear slips, profanity and nude or semi-nude pictures printed on shirts, torn pants or jeans. holes, denim shorts, short-shorts, cut-off shorts, gym shorts, unclean clothing, sun glasses, sport caps.
3.c. The following is acceptable for women players
Women’s suits, dresses. skirts, blouses, turtleneck, T-shirts or poloʼs, trousers, jeans or slacks, footwear (boots, flats, mid-heel or high-heel shoes, sneakers with sock), jacket, vest or sweater, a scarf, as well as jewelry (earrings, necklace, etc.) coordinated to the outfit may be worn. Team uniforms, national costumes clothing.
3.d. The following is NOT acceptable for women players
Beach-wear slips, profanity and nude or semi-nude pictures printed on shirts, torn pants or jeans. holes, noticeable unclean clothing, sun glasses, sport caps. Revealing attire. Clothes such as denim shorts, short-shorts, cut-off shorts, gym shorts, crop tops, tank tops, and clothes made of see-through materials or clothes that expose areas of the body usually covered in the location where the event is taking place.

  1. Dress Code for winning teams and players (Includes players, captains, head of delegations) for awards ceremonies.
    Business casual (European standards), which means long trousers or pants, shirt, jacket, with or without tie (no t-shirts, no polo, no jeans, no sports shoes or sneakers or slippers, no hats or caps (except for religious reasons) and the equivalent style of dress for women players. National costumes and team uniforms are allowed.

A player not in proper dress code will not be allowed to play, until she or he comply with the FIDE Dress Code. Tournament staff and FIDE officials/representatives not in proper dress code will be asked to remove him or herself from the event or meeting until complying with the FIDE Dress Code.

11

Does 3D mean that if the event is being held in strict Muslim areas, all the women players must wear a burkha?

12

I don’t understand. Does FIDE claim original jurisdiction to allow or forbid private activities such as training, or establishing chess academies?

EDIT: This was reposted when it was not promptly posted, and I assumed it had fallen into a bit bucket somewhere.

13

I don’t understand. Does FIDE claim original jurisdiction to allow or forbid private activities, such as training, or the establishment of chess academies?

14

There is also a proviso allowing team uniforms or national costumes. I guess a Women’s World Team Championship with teams representing cities would still allow the New York City entry to have a Ziegfield-follies chorus-line-style team uniform.