# New member in validation database, but not in MSA **URL:** \ **Category:** Running Chess Tournaments\ **Created:** [July 1, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/new-member-in-validation-database-but-not-in-msa/498 "2005-07-01T16:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![renochess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba8739/32.png) [@renochess](https://forum.uschess.org/u/renochess)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/new-member-in-validation-database-but-not-in-msa/498/1 "2005-07-01T16:17:10Z")
Last night I took a bye during the tournament I directed and did some housekeeping. First I entered a new membership and paid for it on line. Once I had the USCF ID#, I uploaded a recent tournament that contained games with that new member. The upload passed validation. BUT when I check MSA, the new member cannot be found in the database and the MSA crosstable ([uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php … 1-12514379](http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200506099231-12514379)) has the following line for the new member: ``` 8 | [Error-unknown] |1.0 |D 7|D 6|L 5|L 4| ``` NV | 13206605 / Q: Unrated-\>1420P4 | | | | | | What gives? Is it because I rated it too soon after the new membership was done? Do I need to do anything to try and fix this? ---
**Author:** ![nolan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/nolan/32/174_2.png) [@nolan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/nolan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/new-member-in-validation-database-but-not-in-msa/498/2 "2005-07-01T17:09:45Z")
This is strictly a website timing issue. Because the member database and the crosstables on the public website are updated at different times, it is possible that a member may not be in the member database ON THE PUBLIC WEBSITE if looking at a VERY RECENTLY rated event. Usually that problem goes away within a few hours at the next update pass for the member database. Looks like it’s OK now. We had a minor database problem last night that may have affected some of the tranfers to the MSA site. I restarted the database server this morning to make sure it was running properly, but some of the overnight jobs or early morning jobs might not have run. Because there was a period of several hours where it was probably not possible to use the USCF TD/Affiliate Support Area, I’ve changed when I will be starting the August supplement run (including a rerate) from 6PM today to 11PM today. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/system/32/2_2.png) [@system](https://forum.uschess.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/new-member-in-validation-database-but-not-in-msa/498/3 "2024-04-22T08:39:02Z")