# Senior rating divisions

**URL:** <https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506>\
**Category:** All Things Chess\
**Created:** [September 6, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506 "2008-09-06T15:44:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![nocab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e0b2c6/32.png) [@nocab](https://forum.uschess.org/u/nocab)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/1 "2008-09-06T15:44:53Z")

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There are 13 separate divisions for young players in the top player lists, not counting the 3 for female players, yet only one for Senior players; with that being the over 65 category. Why is that? If one is eligible to play in the US Senior at 50, why is that age not listed?  
I would like to suggest the list be changed to include the best players at the ages of 50-55-60-65-70-and 75.

[baconlog.blogspot.com/](http://baconlog.blogspot.com/)  
[chess.com/nocab](http://chess.com/nocab)

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There’s a whiff of the lynch mob or the lemming migration about any overlarge concentration of like-thinking individuals, no matter how virtuous their cause.-P J O’Rourke

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**Author:** ![nolan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/nolan/32/174_2.png) [@nolan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/nolan)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/2 "2008-09-06T19:03:38Z")

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I suspect nobody’s ever asked for it, the Senior Committee would be the place to start.

Part of the concern would be whether there are enough active players to justify multiple brackets.

Here’s a breakdown of players active since June of 2007 by age from 8-15 and in 5 year increments starting at age 50:

[code] age count

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8 4055  
9 5181  
10 5411  
11 5260  
12 4234  
13 3359  
14 2784  
15 2084  
50-54 2171  
55-59 1502  
60-64 1009  
65-69 653  
70-74 434  
75+ 397[/code]

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**Author:** ![Smythe\_Dakota](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@Smythe\_Dakota](https://forum.uschess.org/u/Smythe_Dakota)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/3 "2008-09-07T07:12:15Z")

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> [@nolan](#):
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> … Part of the concern would be whether there are enough active players to justify multiple brackets. …

Or, perhaps there are too many players in some of the sub-brackets (such as 50-55).

Bill Smythe

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**Author:** ![CRW9242](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@CRW9242](https://forum.uschess.org/u/CRW9242)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/4 "2008-09-08T12:55:45Z")

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Speaking of the Top 100 lists, when will the latest version be posted?

I like these lists. It gives states a chance to shine the light on their younger players. Maybe being on a Top 100 list will keep players renewing their memberships and actively playing. Anything that helps is OK with me.

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**Author:** ![steve4chess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@steve4chess](https://forum.uschess.org/u/steve4chess)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/5 "2008-09-08T17:20:35Z")

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> [@nocab](#):
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> If one is eligible to play in the US Senior at 50, why is that age not listed?  
> I would like to suggest the list be changed to include the best players at the ages of 50-55-60-65-70-and 75.

Well … some of us who are over 50 still wish to think of ourselves as young! Senior? Bah, humbug! 🙂

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**Author:** ![nolan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/nolan/32/174_2.png) [@nolan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/nolan)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/6 "2008-09-08T18:08:32Z")

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We generate Top 100 lists every other month, in even numbered months. The October ratings list was finalized over the weekend, Chuck will be working on getting Top 100 lists from that ratings list created this week.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Lux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Joe\_Lux](https://forum.uschess.org/u/Joe_Lux)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/7 "2008-09-09T14:46:16Z")

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I have to admit, I’d like to know how I stand with my age group (55-60).

All the best, Joe Lux

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**Author:** ![fantasychess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/fantasychess/32/38_2.png) [@fantasychess](https://forum.uschess.org/u/fantasychess)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/8 "2008-09-09T15:01:06Z")

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> [@Joe Lux](#):
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> I have to admit, I’d like to know how I stand with my age group (55-60).

Probably with the help of a Zimmer Frame… 🙂

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**Author:** ![nolan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/nolan/32/174_2.png) [@nolan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/nolan)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/9 "2008-09-09T18:05:24Z")

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Shouldn’t that be 55-59? (The determination of the age brackets is one of the issues that the Senior Committee should be consulted on.)

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**Author:** ![Smythe\_Dakota](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@Smythe\_Dakota](https://forum.uschess.org/u/Smythe_Dakota)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/10 "2008-09-12T09:43:02Z")

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Or 56-60. (Fencepost effect.)

Bill Smythe

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**Author:** ![wbport](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/wbport/32/1328_2.png) [@wbport](https://forum.uschess.org/u/wbport)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/11 "2008-09-12T12:03:48Z")

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Or 55 - \<60

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**Author:** ![timjust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/timjust/32/44_2.png) [@timjust](https://forum.uschess.org/u/timjust)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/12 "2008-09-12T12:36:08Z")

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We have Erik Karklins here in Illinois still pushing wood instead of daisies and he is in his 90’s. I wonder how many players are still active into their 90’s? (yep, he has remained an Expert for many years now).

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**Author:** ![nolan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/nolan/32/174_2.png) [@nolan](https://forum.uschess.org/u/nolan)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/13 "2008-09-12T14:08:27Z")

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USCF records have 11 players in their 90’s who have played in rated events in the last 12 months and another 118 players in their 80’s.

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**Author:** ![karchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@karchad](https://forum.uschess.org/u/karchad)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/14 "2008-09-18T20:43:38Z")

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> [@steve4chess](#):
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> > [@nocab](#):
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> > If one is eligible to play in the US Senior at 50, why is that age not listed?  
> > I would like to suggest the list be changed to include the best players at the ages of 50-55-60-65-70-and 75.
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> Well … some of us who are over 50 still wish to think of ourselves as young! Senior? Bah, humbug! 🙂

Agreed. And let me add the suggestion that the “Senior Division” be defined as starting 2 years older than my own age at any time…

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**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.uschess.org/system/32/2_2.png) [@system](https://forum.uschess.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.uschess.org/t/senior-rating-divisions/7506/15 "2024-04-22T08:34:59Z")

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Closed on April 22, 2024, 8:34am UTC


