10 second delay

[MichaelAtkins]

@relyea

@MichaelAtkins

Experience - This is the psychological perception of time. Both formats result in the same thing, since Bronstein adds and Delay waits and this works until you have 6 seconds left in Bronstein mode (see example below). From this perspective it really doesn’t matter that 1 or 2 seconds were added to the Bronstein clock at the start. A player isn’t going to be thinking “Hmmm, all is well, I have an extra second that was given to me 4-5-6 hours ago!” No, he is going to experience having 5 fewer seconds with which to think. As soon as the player uses more than 5 seconds, the two formats are not equal when there is six seconds left on the clock from a perception and experience of time. Look at the example and tell me if they are REALLY the same from a perceptual experience, without using TD Speak to say they are equivalent…

Why would there be one or two seconds added to the clock at the start? Shouldn’t there be five extra seconds (in your example) added at the start? In Bronstein mode the clock will display the exact amount of time remaining for the player to make his (next) move. With a delay, that is counted down somewhere separately. This seems to be a lot more confusing to me.

If your clock shows six seconds, that means something different depending on whether you are using delay or Bronstein. If you are using Bronstein it means that you have six seconds to move. If you are using delay it means that you have six seconds PLUS some indeterminable time until your clock will start. If it is your opponent’s move it is fairly certain that that time is the standard delay time, but if it is your move, it is anyone’s guess.

Alex Relyea

Don’t you think that six seconds plus “some indeterminable time” (5 or 10 seconds) is more time than having only six seconds period on the clock? I was using adding 1 second to the Bronstein because it was mentioned earlier as cure for later time differences. I don’t think it matters if you add 5 seconds or 5 minutes as that time will disappear during the game. When you are down to six seconds you are down to six seconds. The two formats are very different in how the game ends, no matter what is done earlier to compensate for the difference. So they are equivalent but not the same, and the psychological perception and experience as the game ends seems more important than any supposed mathematical equivalence. But, in the end, we are talking opinions which is why we can differ and disagree.

Mike