The 2C spec doesn’t require the color information. However, why are you making a big deal about this? No one (except I guess you) is surprised that uploaded color information might be incorrect. You didn’t even play in the flipping tournament!
I’m not making a big deal about it. My club will (hopefully) be upgrading to SwissSys9 soon. I run double swiss and double round robin blitz events and was just curious if there is a way to avoid the color information from being uploaded from SwissSys 9 or excluded from the rating report. Also, you are correct I didn’t play in the tournament but the reason I was looking at the crosstable is because I had some friends who did.
Also, you went as far as contacting the USCF office about a tournament you didn’t flipping play in!
It could impact win counts in MSA, which might in turn affect milestones reflected in a player’s record.
For practical purposes, this is probably a negligible issue - almost every event run as a double-round Swiss is a blitz event, and I have yet to encounter a player in person who really cares that they might be credited one extra unearned win toward a blitz milestone.
If that was your point, why did you take four posts to get around to it instead of constantly bringing up the errors in one particular tournament? (BTW, that’s rhetorical.)
There already is a rather lengthy thread about better collecting double blitz information:
What is a “revised .dbf,” as has been discussed on these pages, and how is it used in uploading rating reports?
On the WinTD screen (when generating the USCF report) there is a pair of radio buttons for the original (no color) and revised (color included) dbf (data base file) formats.
That was in 4.1. 4.2 just uses the newer format. It’s transparent to the user—it’s still three .DBF files with the same (expected) names, but the newer format has extra fields.
When I make a report, I see no such option (the only options are who gets a crosstable and where should WinTD write the files).
Tom, when I click in Help->About for the version it says 4.03, but when I look at the install directory in the computer’s Control Panel, it lists 4.11 as the version which I bought and installed in Feb. 2014. Is something wrong here?
It sounds like you’re firing up an old 4.03. If you start the program by double-clicking a PTO file, you need to change it so they open with the newer version. (Right-click, Open with…, select the newer version and say that you always want to use this to open this file type).
Sure enough, a reinstall fixed this and I now see the radio buttons to which Jeff was referring.
I didn’t take four posts to get around to it, I brought it up in my first post on the issue
I emailed Thad Suits about this issue and he said he will consider adding a feature so you can choose not to have the color information uploaded to USCF. For now, any double Swiss tournament where the players just report the results like 1-1 will have incorrect color information if the results are uploaded from the latest versions of SwissSys 9.
I believe the correct response was “Sorry. The emphasis on the first post was misplaced.” Read your “The reason I’m asking…”
WinTD has always required that you put in separate results for each game in a pair. Interestingly, the original set of uploads didn’t include the color information for double blitz (I think it just came out as “P”, which was a generic tag that WinTD uses for situations where the color is not necessarily known). No one has yet suggested that I take the color off, so either TD’s don’t really care about the correctness of the color, or are encouraging the players to play and report in the proper order.
sigh