Electronic scoresheet device still can have a recording error. If the only way the USCF is going to have a electronic scoresheet device with a record of take back moves. What should the player do if the player place the wrong move? If the player takes back the move, the opponent can make a claim of cheating. As the take back move could have been a candidate move. The player would have to get the tournament director, point out the error and correct the error in the presence of the tournament director.
If the player has to correct the scoresheet, with the presence of the tournament director: the director should consult the opponents scoresheet as well. Would not that be borrowing the opponents scoresheet? Does it matter if the opponent or the tournament director needs to borrow the scoresheet? Would not that be under rule 15D2, the opponent that is in error must have the clock running till the error is corrected?
If the owner or the electronic scoresheet does make an error, should not the opponent get 2 minutes added to the clock. As the owner of the electronic scoresheet did not follow the rules with a correct move on the electronic scoresheet. If the owner had a paper scoresheet, the player would not need to get the tournament director. Since the electronic scoresheet must have a way to prove take backs, the player must get the tournament director before the corrections. If not, the opponent can point out the take back and make a claim of cheating.
I don’t think we’d have to get the TD involved most of the time. If the player using the electronic “scoresheet” always made the move on the board first and only then recorded the move, why would his opponent make some kind of obviously incorrect “cheating” claim? Making a claim that you know to be incorrect is itself cheating. I think it would be easy for the TD to tell the difference between one or two corrected moves over the course of an entire game and systematic cheating.
The TD’s access to the scoresheet is not “borrowing”. Yes, corrections to a score sheet have to be done on the player’s own time if he has to borrow a scoresheet to make the corrections. If it doesn’t interfere with his opponent, what difference does it make when he makes the correction?
(1) No, the opponent should not get 2 minutes just for a scorekeeping error. We don’t assess any penalty for a simple score keeping error on a paper scoresheet!
(2) The player making an error DOES occasionally have to get the TD to correct an error on his scoresheet. His opponent might not be willing to “lend” his scoresheet to help correct the error, for example. In that case, the player would have to request the scoresheet from the TD.
(3) As I pointed out above, IF the player with the electronic device makes a habit of always following a reasonable rule of recording the move only after it’s made on the board, then it should be obvious to his opponent that he wasn’t behaving improperly. I’ve heard of a couple of cases where a player knowingly made a bogus claim, but such are extremely rare. It’d be silly to penalize the player with the electronic device to keep HIS OPPONENT from trying to cheat.
How can I not prove it was not cheating? One candidate move, just one candidate move with a take back is still cheating. The only way the error can be proven it was not cheating is calling the tournament director.
Would not the tournament director have to check both scoresheets? If I do not check your scoresheet and your opponents score, than I should be in error. Since tournament directors are not called to fix paper scoresheets, electronic scoresheets are much diffferent. It does make the tournament director in a way forced to borrow your opponents scoresheets.
But paper scoresheets can be taken care of between the players. Electronic scoresheets are different, they are not paper. Since the owner of the electronic scoresheet had to call the director, so a charge of non-cheating, 2 minutes should be the standard penalty.
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Giancristofaro, you sound very sceptical. It makes me wonder…
Why would the person that corrected a scoresheet have to “Prove” his innocence? The presumption in this country is that a person is innocent unless evidence of guilt exists. One correction in a scorebook isn’t PROOF of anything except normal human error.
If the person strictly made the moves on the board and only then recorded the move, then there is no basis for a claim. If the TD announced a policy of move first and then record, then the violator would be subject to penalties even if the move was always recorded correctly.