Are FIDE-Rated events held in the US required to also be USCF-rated?
Yes.
Not true. Was the FIDE World Championship Knock-Out tournament held in Las Vegas in '99 USCF rated?
Chris Bird
I believe the rule was put in place in 2003 requiring that if USCF turns it in, then USCF has to also rate it.
Mike Nolan - can you clarify for us oh rating guru!
Would FIDE even accept a rating report for a tournament held in the USA that was not sent in by USCF? Doesn’t FIDE require that reports for all FIDE-rated events be submitted by the FIDE affiliate in that country?
Bill Smythe
FIDE has previously accepted some FIDE tournament reports directly from at least one IA, for US tournaments, which did not go through the USCF.
I don’t specifically recall any requirement that FIDE rated events held in the USA must also be USCF rated, but I don’t run FIDE rated events. The USCF rating report is the basis of what the office currently prepares the FIDE report from, though.
Was that something passed by the EB or by the Delegates?
No this was something by FIDE. I’ll have to search thru their stuff and see if I can find anything.
–Sevan
I went through the FIDE site yesterday. I saw a requirement that the national federation approve of the event being held and that players must be a member of their national federation, I didn’t see anything that requires the national federation to rate the game under their own ratings system. I don’t think all FIDE member federations have their own national ratings system.
But if FIDE rating reports from the US are produced from USCF rating reports, there would seem to be a de facto requirement. I’d say that anyone wanting to run a FIDE event in the US that was not USCF rated would need advance approval from the ED.
It is my understanding that there is something in the works at FIDE where an FA/IA can submit rating reports directly to FIDE and bypass the national federation. But I don’t think that’s being voted on until Dresden 2008.
The question is - will the USCF submit a FIDE rating report without having USCF rate it? That’s a question for the ED to answer I think.
–Sevan
FIDE is trying to encourage everyone to submit rating reports through the FIDE Ratings Server site (similar to our TD/Affiliate Support Area), but the only people who have access to that server are the Ratings Officers at the national federations. (As I understand it, there’s a surcharge for processing rating reports submitted in other ways, also paralleling USCF’s policy of charging a different ratings fee for events submitted online or on paper…)
However as I read the FIDE Handbook, it is already the case that the registration of a FIDE event must be approved by the national federation in that nation but the report itself does not need to come from the national federation.
So we have a situation in which FIDE procedures and FIDE rules would appear to be inconsistent with each other. Maybe that’s what they hope to clear up in Dresden?