"Final Chess Masters" -- FIDE rated?

Running Chess Tournaments
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In Shanghai, the “Final Chess Masters” tournament is underway.
Players include V.Kramnik, L.Aronian, A.Shirov.
Long time controls are being used.

Final Chess Masters tournament

The tournament is using the 3-1-0/W-D-L “Bilbao” scoring system as its attempt to reduce the 60% draw rate among elite grandmasters.
This is the same scoring system that European soccer/football adopted to entice a risky offensive emphasis, to reduce the rate of 0-0 ties and increase the number of goals.

:question: Is this tournament being rated by FIDE? :question:

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I can’t answer that because it seems that there is something wrong with the FIDE site, but I know that it would be USCF ratable. USCF doesn’t care why a game was won or drawn, just that it was.

Alex Relyea

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More accurately, the USCF rating system doesn’t care why player X was paired against player Y. As long as the game is an honest contest conducted in accordance with USCF rules (including limitations on match play), it is USCF ratable.

FIDE tends to be more concerned about pairing issues, at least with regards to norms and titles. That’s why the Delegates recently approved a change to rule 28T to replace the current rule with the following:

TDs running FIDE rated events are urged to use the new rule 28T effective immediately.

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Are you sure? I thought we voted to strike 28T and renumber 28U as 28T.

Alex Relyea

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My notes have:

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This is a welcome change.

I’ve never liked those “wink-wink” rules – those that seem to be saying “well, you really shouldn’t hadn’t oughta be doing this, but (whisper, whisper) here’s a suggestion you could probably get away with”.

Bill Smythe

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Apparently not. See this link:

http://ratings.fide.com/tournament_list.phtml?moder=ev_code&country=CHN

Alex Relyea

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Just because the event isn’t registered with FIDE yet, that doesn’t mean it won’t be a FIDE rated event.

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Mike, “FIDE rated” is not the same thing as “FIDE norms and titles can be earned.” Trying to enforce the use of FIDE pairing rules in U.S. tournaments would be a good way to ensure the number of such tournaments would drastically decrease. My understanding of what we passed was that it was intended only to end the practice of adjusting pairings to increase norm opportunities. (Though the Rules Committee’s unwillingness to provide a written report is a nuisance.)

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John, Walter Brown would be better informed than I am, but I’m not aware of any situations yet in which FIDE refused to rate an event because pairings were adjusted to give someone a third game against a FIDE rated opponent (and possibly give that player his 9th opponent, thus a published FIDE rating.)

However, I think it’s something that TDs working FIDE rated events need to be aware COULD happen.

It does appear that FIDE wants to increase the pool of FIDE rated players by lowering the minimum rating while also clamping down on the use of FIDE rules (such as FIDE ratable time controls). The latter could decrease the number of FIDE rated events, at least in the USA.

Many within FIDE consider the USCF a rogue bunch of buffoons. We don’t do a lot to dispel that image, either.

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Except to remind FIDE:

  1. They learned about ratings from the U.S. (which we had before FIDE).

  2. They learned about swiss tournaments from the U.S. (which we also had before FIDE).

  3. They learned about rougue buffoons from the U.S., which we also had first.