How can i get a street player who has been playing all his life, to realize that it does matter that a white square should be at the player right? and the king should be on the e file, is it because all the books,etc and reading chess is set up that way?
From the 5th edition of the U.S. Chess Federation’s Official Rules of Chess (page 3):
2C. Placement.
The chessboard is placed between the players in such a way that the nearer corner to the right of each player is white.
You can’t force somebody to “realize” anything. If TDing you can only rule how it shall be according to the rulebook. If playing rated, you can only point out the rule and/or make a claim of the TD. If playing unrated, you can only refuse to play that player.
Though does anybody else find it stretches credulity to think a, “street player who has been playing all his life,” really doesn’t know, “White to the right side and Queen takes her own color?” Equally possible on first analysis is that the other player might do that deliberately to set off balance the other player.
I know plenty of fellow club players that could not care less how the board is setup when playing training games. I guess if proper board setup is something you care about just hurry to be the one who sets it up.
No, it doesn’t stretch credulity with me. How many players in the US, who have played offhand games all their life, have never heard of en passant? I didn’t until I went to a USCF-affiliated chess club. You can still buy cheap chess sets that doesn’t mention it in the rules, though not as often as decades ago.
If you don’t like the playing conditions, walk away.
All the best, Joe Lux
I’ll stand corrected, especially because I didn’t know about e.p. for quite awhile. Nor the 50-move rule, etc. Though I still think it’s equally possible that someone might, as a matter of hustling, employ a board rotation knowingly as a dirty-pool tacitic.
Yeah that’s it have the street player read a book bigger than his IQ has ever read before, that’ll make him believe he’s wrong lol 
I wonder what would happen if someone simply showed the street player the quoted rule instead of the bloated rulebook? 
It’s funny; although I am always sure to have the squares aligned according to the rules, when one thinks about it, this really has no practical bearing on the game itself. The capabilities of the pieces and the possibilities available to each player are completely unchanged if the board is positioned “the other way”.
It’s very loosely analogous to seeing a map of the world with the south at the “top”. There is no physical reason why that shouldn’t be “right”, and no laws of physics, astronomy, meterology, etc., that would be either changed or challenged by this alternate depiction. In both cases (map and chessboard) it is simply counter to convention.
Yes, in the case of squares placement, I believe this is a rule merely of accepted convention. I always abide by the rule, but it has no further practical purpose than that.
Try playing the lines of all openings with the queen and king switched and see if you can complete them as they were intended. Better yet throw your rule book out the window and don’t do white on right and see if you’re any different than the hustler.
No, I’m not saying ‘switch the Ks and Qs.’ Leave them where they are and let the squares change color. I was careful to draw the line there.
(Changing the Ks and Qs also leads to a certain symmetry that doesn’t change the big picture - but I would AGREE that this would be raising the bar considerably further.)
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So white not on right is ok as the south pole being on the top of the globe as you explained in that post and then you dig yourself further in by stating,
Yeah you’ll be ok, note to self buy him a rule book and GPS
TPG is right on this. Not one single move from and opening book would change. Square a1 is simply located on the other side of the board, that’s all. White’s King would still start on e1; White’s Queen would still start on d1. Moreover, the same holds true for all those old books written in English Descriptive. The only thing that’s different is that the columns go alphabetically up from right to left, instead of left to right, that’s all.
It is generally agreed that the earth spins counterclockwise on its axis. But that’s only if the north pole is at the top! If you take a different view and put the south pole at the top, now the earth spins clockwise. Just as, in the northern hemisphere, the sun appears to move clockwise across the sky, and in the southern, counterclockwise.
Bill Smythe