There are four U.S. Amateur Team tournaments each year, the North, East, South and West.
Do any of you know which states were originally intended to comprise the South for purposes of the Amateur Team tournaments (assuming this was determined at some point)?
I have looked at the listings of the regions that the USCF used to use, but there are states such as New Mexico that could be considered either South or West.
Jon
New Mexico is too far south to be west and too far west to be south. 
I’m interested in an “official” answer to this as well.
My conjecture is that bids are given to a regional organizer if the proposed location is somewhere within driving distance of a nebulous region (e.g. California for West, Chicago for North, DC to NYC for East, and a Gulf state for South). I can’t imagine a team being turned away b/c they are from the “wrong region.” If the West was held in Denver and the South is held in Miami…I doubt anyone is going to complain when a bunch of Texas teams show up to the West.
Incidentally, I fail to understand how NM can be anything but West.
Only resource I could find is in the 2012 Delegates Call. No idea how the “new” 12 regions align to the “old” 4 regions.
USCF Regions.
I. MA, CT, RI, NH, ME, VT
II. NY, NJ
III. PA, MD, VA, WVA, DE, DC
IV. FL, GA, NC, SC
V. OH, MI, IN, KY
VI. MN, WI, ND, SD
VII. IL, MO, IA, NE
VIII. TN, AL, LA, MS, AR
IX. CO, UT, KS, WY
X. TX, OK, NM
XI. SCA, NCA, AZ, NV, HI
XII. WA, OR, ID, MT, AK
There have been “out of region” teams in the past that even contended for winning the region.
I’d guess that if one team ever won two USAT regionals (held on different weekends) then it would be paired against itself in the play-offs and play the winner of the match between the other two regions.
Looks like the same 12 regions that have been around for decades.
I think you should worry less about New Mexico and more about Missouri.
The SEC thinks Missouri is in the ‘South’ these days. 
I don’t think there has been a formal division of the states into 4 regions for team tournament purposes, and the 12 region model goes back to at least the mid 1980’s, when it was used for RVPs. These days about all it is used for is reporting EB election results.
The Big East thinks that Boise (Idaho) is in the East. I wouldn’t go by conferences.
Alex Relyea
I thought Boise was in east Washington? 
There are only two sections of the USA. The first and foremost comprising the Great States of South Carolina; Mississippi; Florida; Alabama; Georgia; Louisana; Texas; Virginia; Arkansas; North Carolina; Tennessee; Missouri; & Kentucky.
The second section consists of other states…
Armchair Warrior
I have a bulldog named General Lee. I don’t take him for Granted.
Both the Big Ten and the Big XII think 10 = 12.
At one time it was reported that the Big Twelve had registered several trademarks: Big 13, Big 14, Big 15 and Big 16. (Probably in both Roman numeral and numeric forms.)
. . . that a person can actually stand to live in.
(You started this line of discussion, sir.)
The first set of states are the ones that seceded.
Our mistake was that we fought to bring them back….
Missouri and Kentucky did not secede. They were both known as “border states”, fought over by both the Confederacy and the Union. But, they did not officially secede from the Union like South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, etc. did in 1861.
Although it is generally accepted that the Great State of Missouri did not secede, the fact is that the state was divided to the point that it had two different state governments and sent representatives to both the Confederate Congress and the Congress of the northern states. The question is answered is best answered at, pricecamp.org/csamo.htm, where one can read Missouri’s Ordinance of Secession, which was passed by the Senate, October 28, 1861 and the Congress, October 30, 1861.
As for Kentucky… I found from my three years there that those folks were divided then and nothing has changed since that time. For example, I was eating at the Mediterranean Cafe one day when a couple became agitated because the waitress was wearing a large Confederate belt buckle. The feisty young woman refused to back down, informing them that one of the stars on the Confederate battle flag belongs to Kentucky, a fact of which she was proud. Those yankmees were so ignorant they told her she was wrong and did not know her history. At which point I interjected myself into the situation. I gave her a rather large tip…
The record shows Kentucky opted for neutrality because they did not wish to kill their neighbors.They did not go to the war; the war was brought to them. Everyone knows that the president of the disunited states said, “I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky.” Most do not know he also wrote, “I think to lose Kentucky is nearly the same as to lose the whole game. … We would as well consent to separation at once, including the surrender of the capital.” It is obvious from the above that the wishes of the people of Kentucky did not matter and that there was going to be war in order for the president of the disunited states to keep the state of his birth with the northern states while they devastated the Glorious South, perpetuating war crimes on the civilian population that would make Pol Pot proud! And before you guys with a badge pull this post, you should know that there is a book entitled, War Crimes Against Southern Civilians, by Walter Brian Cisco, published by Pelican publishing in 2007.
Armchair Warrior
There never was a “Glorious South.” Historians and novelists who were sympathetic to the South perpetuated legends and myths concerning the culture of the region. Life in the South was mean, brutish, and short for poor whites and blacks both before the Civil War and afterwards.
The maintenance of slavery as an economic system had outrun its time politically but was clung to desperately by the Southern elites as they did not have the cash to adapt to the new industrialism of the nation. They were fearful that their power to influence policy would be overwhelmed by the wealth of magnates in railroads, steel, and shipping. Capital and industrial might was in the northern and would soon to be in the western states. The evils of slavery were excoriated in other countries and in the pulpits of American ministers. There was no “glory” to be had in a system of shackles, beatings, the break up of families, rape, and torture of individuals who were mere property in law and in the social order.
Historians from the South and the border states with sympathies for the defeated Southern cause wrote movingly of halcyon times that had existed only in the imagination. In the post-Reconstruction period, these writers painted a picture of the victimization of plantation owners and their culture while glossing over the chilling crimes against slaves in the pre-war period, and the crimes against the freed blacks after the war. They fostered continued racism and discord from which this nation has yet to free itself. I could say in short, “the South lost, get over it,” but I know from my studies that the mythologies have persisted and given weight to charlatan politicians who have exploited race-baiting, dog whistle politics, artificial class war, and social issues in order to gain and maintain their power. General Robert E. Lee was able to make peace with his adversaries. Unfortunately many others then and now have not.
He is no more out of touch than a person who believes that their USCF Rating has any meaning.