Some of the rating links at the bottom of the US Chess homepage should be updated to take you to MUIR.
I thought we got most of them, please let us know which ones we’ve missed.
None of them take you to MUIR.
Each of these goes to MSA or other old sites.
Further, the US Chess Players Search - US Chess Player Search | US Chess.org - contains 3 more links to MSA.
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The rating estimator does not need to be in MUIR so it can be done later. The Player/Rating Lookup to MSA needs to remain until the TD certification level is in MUIR. Past Event Crosstables are useful until the TD staff is fixed in MUIR. The others are not yet critical (top players by state will become important soon for state affiliates looking for who needs to be in their invitations for the Irwin/Denker/Haring/Barber/Rockefeller/Ashley/Morphy).
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The TD Certification level is going to become increasingly inaccurate in MSA.
It’s all useful but it doesn’t need to be linked from the main US Chess website as the most current Ratings information.
Top players by state is already in, although there’s at issue with it in that it only is listing US-flagged players.
Right now MUIR does not have TD certification level in their records (I generally look at Glenn Panner, another NTD in IL and MUIR shows his tournaments as TD but not his level).
MUIR does not show all of the tournaments I worked because for some tournaments it eliminated all but the chief and chief assistant (see US Chess MSA - Cross Table for 2016 NATIONAL K-12 GRADE CHAMPIONSHIPS (Event 201612182712) which cannot be found in my record any more and only shows up in the overall Chief TD and overall Chief Assistant’s record). For historical purposes the MSA record is currently the one with the needed information for things like verifying TD credits. For that matter, in MSA it did not take long to narrow in on that 2016 tournament by looking at tournament dates on the pages (the page with sections 951-1000 of those I’ve worked had it - I’ve worked a total of 2382). MUIR requires loading a page at a time (fewer records per page) and stopped loading any more after loading only the first 1500 sections.
Once MUIR is fixed the links can be changed without blocking us from sometimes critical information.
PS the most recent rated events is available by clicking on that option near the top of any players MUIR page. It shows all of the federation’s most recent events. The player’s recent events are shown on the right side of the page.
Yes, I am aware. MSA is going to be increasingly less accurate for this point as time passes and people take more tests.
I can see MUIR showing you as having 2369 sections.
It’s not blocking us from information, though, just stopping the main website body from routing casual users to inaccurate / outdated information.
Yes. There’s no reason the main US Chess website shouldn’t link to that rather than to an old MSA page.
Granted MUIR lists me as having that many sections but when I try to pull up my sections in MUIR for the details it only allows loading the last 1500 in the list (only going back to the 2003 IL open). The last 1500 in MSA goes back to December of 2011 and the 2003 IL open is on the page with sections 2051-2100, meaning MUIR is missing about 600 sections worth of information in what it is able to list (including the 2016 national school grade). I am guessing that a TD’s section count is maintained in another record MUIR brought over even though it did not bring over the data supporting the count. 600 out of 2100 is around 28.5%. Other TDs that are still trying to upgrade their certification would be adversely impacted if a quarter of their experience became inaccessible. It might be higher than 28.5% for many because I was the chief TD of a lot of events and it looks like the chief TD data was retained.
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Taking another look, 2003 is the cutoff for MUIR but that 1500 count is the events from 8/29/2003 to 2/8/2020 (looking at post 2/8/2020 events would require restarting the search). Feb 2020 was in the 651-700 page in MSA. That makes MUIR’s 1500 count for that period more than the 1400 sections in MSA for that period and MUIR is still missing events. I’m not sure why MUIR has 100 more listings while having fewer events.
The API goes back to 1992 for you. This link shows directorships 2351-2400 (really 2351-2369 if I recall correctly).
https://ratings-api.uschess.org/api/v1/members/10336015/directorships?Offset=2350&Size=50
Must of this is a UI issue as MUIR seems to have a lot more information accessible through the JSON API.
Now, is the information in MUIR anywhere near as good as the information in MSA? Currently no. Was it in a sufficiently equivalent state to launch with? Minds differ.
This one looks to be an actual data error.
MSA:
MUIR:
It looks like it ignored the section level Chief TD information…and I note that you aren’t listed on the JSON API either https://ratings-api.uschess.org/api/v1/rated-events/201612182712/officials?includeAll=true
TD certification on MSA is still being updated from the membership system, so it should be good. TD history is not, though.
The events rated list link at the bottom of the US Chess homepage still takes you to the old page.
Yeah, the TOC has several out-of-date links. I can’t fix those, that has to be done by publications.
I’m not sure there’s a direct replacement for this yet, but is it needed?
What does TOC stand for?
TOC = Table of Contents