Section TDs totally messed up

I submitted a tournament with a FIDE rated top section the way (I’m told) the Mass. Chess Association has done it in the past:

  • I (a FIDE IA, and the only licensed FIDE Arbiter) was listed as the Chief TD for the entire tournament with no assistants.
  • The top section of the Tournament was listed with no Chief TD, or Assistants
  • Lower sections (US Chess rated only) had different Section Chiefs and Assistants.
  • MUIR is showing me as the Chief for the FIDE rated section (and all other sections), but it picked up the first section assistant of the highest US Chess rated section as the Chief Assistant for the entire tournament. He is not a FIDE licensed arbiter!
  • The Chiefs and Assistants for the subsections are not showing up correctly in MUIR when looking at the tournament as a regular user.

The event info is:

Event ID 202511300253

Affiliate FUTURE MASTERS CHESS ACADEMY

Help!

-Matt Phelps

I passed this on to the developers.

Hi Mike,

I worked the 29th Annual Eastern Chess Congress this past October. I was Chief Assistant for the whole tournament but on Muir it shows me with only the Extra Game sections. It gives Harold Stenzel my credit as Chief Assistant in Muir.

Please attached clip from MSA. Will this be corrected in Muir?

I got the credit with FIDE but would like to see it on MUIR too.

Thanks,

Charles Hatherill

NTD/FIDE IA

My understanding is that there was a flaw in the way the data was migrated from the legacy system. A re-migrate is planned but not yet scheduled.

I’ve seen one or two reports that suggest there may also be an issue with TD info for events entered on MUIR, but I haven’t personally validated them so I don’t know if this is a misunderstanding by the TD, a bug in how the data is entered into the database or a display issue. It is probably desirable to make sure this issue is resolved before doing the re-migrate.

The 2016 National K-12 School Grades is either a data issue or a display issue, not a misunderstanding. A comparison of MSA to MUIR makes that clear.

I’m sure there’s a data issue with migrated events, I’m just trying to determine if that’s the only issue.

The developers say they’ve re-migrated the TD history and they fixed a display issue, so see if TD history for events (both before the migration and after) are looking better now.

If SuperNationals VIII is any indication, there are still a lot of issues but they may be display issues not data issues.

Mike,

It’s still not showing up right for my event https://ratings.uschess.org/event/202511300253

Not really, no. To look at one of the noted events above:

Note that Charles W. Hatherill (Chief Assist. TD in MSA) is completely absent from the MUIR report.

I think they’re still missing some TD roles, don’t see a pattern on it. (I do see events with an assistant chief tournament TD field in the database if not necessarily on MUIR.)

I’m not sure they got the legacy assistant chief tournament TD field.

There are definitely still display issues, too. Lather Rinse Repeat

Hi, I was chief TD of this event but my name doesn’t show at all:

However, the event does show up in my list of events directed.

If you look at the data returned from the API being used to build the page:



https://ratings-api.uschess.org/api/v1/rated-events/202511020103/officials?includeAll=true

…I’m guessing the issue is that Arthur Suggs is the first “Chief TD” listed, even though that was at a section level rather than at the whole tournament level.

It’s a display issue, here’s what’s in the database. (NULL in the section column is the tournament-level TDs)

Thank you both for the response. Is there a webpage with docs for this API?

If you want information on the API, send email to me: mnolan@uschess.org

(That’s so we can keep a list of people who’ve requested it.)

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Done. Thank you! Appreciate all of your time and valuable information you share. Also big fan of your old system. Not sure about the new one yet :slight_smile: .

https://ratings.uschess.org/event/202512080133 was this the same display issue?

Aditya ARUTLA (one of our section TDs) is shown as tournament Chief TD, but the actual tournament Chief TD Kavya Meiyappan was not shown anywhere at all…

Yes. Kavya Meiyappan is listed in the raw data as the Chief Director:

…frankly, I would have expected Jason Li-shen Liu to be incorrectly listed as the Chief Director (first Section Chief), so perhaps there’s an alphabetic sort somewhere.


https://ratings-api.uschess.org/api/v1/rated-events/202512080133/officials?includeAll=true

I think where they’re having problems is when someone is listed as the tournament chief director but nobody was listed (for example) as a section chief, they were trying to make the chief director the section chief. Somehow that was messing up who it was showing as the tournament level TDs, probably some kind of sort issue.

For the pending update, if nobody is explicitly listed as the chief TD for a section, that field will be left blank.

Thank you.

@nolan so this display issue is already on Leago’s issue list ?